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		<title>By: Micky</title>
		<link>http://addictionblog.org/the-news/chaos-the-state-of-recovery-information/#comment-1078</link>
		<dc:creator>Micky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;CHAINED STEPPER&lt;/b&gt;

Oh,&lt;b&gt; BILL WILSON&lt;/b&gt;
My darling
I've hungered for your &lt;b&gt;BIG BOOK&lt;/b&gt;
A long, lonely time
And &lt;b&gt;AA&lt;/b&gt; goes by so slowly
And &lt;b&gt;AA&lt;/b&gt; can do nothing much
&lt;i&gt;Are you still insane?&lt;/i&gt;

I need your &lt;b&gt;CULT&lt;/b&gt;
I need your &lt;b&gt;CULT&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;BILL!&lt;/b&gt; speed your cult to me&lt;/i&gt;

Lonely &lt;b&gt;STEPPERS&lt;/b&gt; flow
To the &lt;i&gt;abyss,&lt;/i&gt; to the &lt;i&gt;abyss&lt;/i&gt;
To the open arms of the &lt;i&gt;abyss&lt;/i&gt;
Lonely&lt;b&gt; STEPPERS &lt;/b&gt;sigh
Wait for me, wait for me
I'll be a &lt;b&gt;WILSON CLONE&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Wait for me!&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, &lt;b&gt;BOB SMITH&lt;/b&gt;
My darling
I've hungered, hungered, for the &lt;b&gt;STEPS&lt;/b&gt;
A long, lonely time
And &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;“HOW IT WORKS”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; is rarely
seen as anything but crap
&lt;i&gt;Are you still on wine?&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;I need you Doc!
I need your Doc!&lt;/i&gt;
Bob!&lt;i&gt; “speed”&lt;/i&gt; your &lt;b&gt;'BILL'&lt;/b&gt; to me!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>CHAINED STEPPER</b></p>
<p>Oh,<b> BILL WILSON</b><br />
My darling<br />
I&#8217;ve hungered for your <b>BIG BOOK</b><br />
A long, lonely time<br />
And <b>AA</b> goes by so slowly<br />
And <b>AA</b> can do nothing much<br />
<i>Are you still insane?</i></p>
<p>I need your <b>CULT</b><br />
I need your <b>CULT</b><br />
<i><b>BILL!</b> speed your cult to me</i></p>
<p>Lonely <b>STEPPERS</b> flow<br />
To the <i>abyss,</i> to the <i>abyss</i><br />
To the open arms of the <i>abyss</i><br />
Lonely<b> STEPPERS </b>sigh<br />
Wait for me, wait for me<br />
I&#8217;ll be a <b>WILSON CLONE</b><br />
<i>Wait for me!</i></p>
<p>Oh, <b>BOB SMITH</b><br />
My darling<br />
I&#8217;ve hungered, hungered, for the <b>STEPS</b><br />
A long, lonely time<br />
And <i><b>“HOW IT WORKS”</b></i> is rarely<br />
seen as anything but crap<br />
<i>Are you still on wine?</i></p>
<p><i>I need you Doc!<br />
I need your Doc!</i><br />
Bob!<i> “speed”</i> your <b>&#8216;BILL&#8217;</b> to me!!</p>
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		<title>By: Cole</title>
		<link>http://addictionblog.org/the-news/chaos-the-state-of-recovery-information/#comment-982</link>
		<dc:creator>Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Bob Marley quote!</description>
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		<title>By: Addiction Blog</title>
		<link>http://addictionblog.org/the-news/chaos-the-state-of-recovery-information/#comment-893</link>
		<dc:creator>Addiction Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people think,
Great God will come from the skies,
Take away everything
And make everybody feel high.
But if you know what life is worth,
You will look for yours on earth:
And now you see the light,
You stand up for your rights. jah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people think,<br />
Great God will come from the skies,<br />
Take away everything<br />
And make everybody feel high.<br />
But if you know what life is worth,<br />
You will look for yours on earth:<br />
And now you see the light,<br />
You stand up for your rights. jah!</p>
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		<title>By: Micky</title>
		<link>http://addictionblog.org/the-news/chaos-the-state-of-recovery-information/#comment-823</link>
		<dc:creator>Micky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://addictionblog.org/the-news/chaos-the-state-of-recovery-information/#comment-823</guid>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;TWELVE STEPS AWAY FROM CHRIST&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Mr. Bill Wilson, founder of Alcoholics Anonymous (A.A.) and creator of the twelve-step program. Mr. Wilson was heavily influenced by demons.&lt;/i&gt; 

Chapter sixteen (p. 275f) of 'Pass It On' The Story of Bill Wilson and how the A.A. message reached the world records Mr. Wilson's use of the ouija board, participation in séances, psychic events, "spook sessions", table levitation, and how he would receive "messages" from "discarnate" spirits. 

&lt;b&gt;Bill Wilson was clearly in contact with demons, and this is the man who created the deceptive twelve-step program.&lt;/b&gt;

Make a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God, as we understood Him. (Step #11.) &lt;b&gt;The last part of this statement ("as we understood Him") is enough to damn your soul! God says, Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. (Proverbs 3:5). 

This is the exact opposite of "God as we understood Him." All men, according to Romans 1:18-32, are condemned before God, because they rely upon their own understanding (Romans 1:21; Ephesians 4:18, "having their understanding darkened"), and they create (in their own darkened minds) a god of their own making (Romans 1:23).&lt;/b&gt;

To encourage people to turn their "lives over to the care of God as we understood Him", is to encourage people to "turn their lives over to a god of their own making" (i.e. according to their own understanding). 

This promotes nothing more than spiritual death (Revelation 22:15). &lt;b&gt;In addition, these twelve steps are a deceitful attack against the saving work of the Lord Jesus Christ (i.e. they are against Christ, anti-Christ, 2 John 7; Colossians 2:8-10).&lt;/b&gt; 

&lt;i&gt;The twelve steps are (as Mr. Wilson used them) given as an answer (a way) in which one can overcome sin (with Mr. Wilson's case, the sin of drunkenness).&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;Jesus Christ is the ONLY answer for sin. He is the only way (John 14:6). There is only ONE "step", and that is faith in the Saviour (Ephesians 2:8/Matthew1:21/John 8:36/Romans10: 13!&lt;/b&gt; 

The above exemplifies the "twelve steps" are what are used to "become free from addictive, compulsive" behaviour (i.e. sin). In other words, the twelve steps are the saviour! 

No doubt it is deceptive, because "Biblical principles" are interwoven throughout; but if they weren't, few (if any) would be deceived. One good question to ask would be, "Where does Scripture talk about any 'twelve steps'"? The answer? Nowhere!

&lt;i&gt;These twelve steps come from Satan (via Bill Wilson), who is the master deceiver (Revelation 12:9). Remember, &lt;b&gt;SATAN.&lt;/b&gt; used Scripture to tempt Christ (Matthew 4:6), and Balaam spoke much truth (Numbers 23-24); but he was a false prophet (2 Peter 2:15-16/Numbers 22). 

In Matthew 7:13-14 Jesus warned, Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. 

Jesus likewise warned in Luke 13:24, Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>TWELVE STEPS AWAY FROM CHRIST</b><br />
<i>Mr. Bill Wilson, founder of Alcoholics Anonymous (A.A.) and creator of the twelve-step program. Mr. Wilson was heavily influenced by demons.</i> </p>
<p>Chapter sixteen (p. 275f) of &#8216;Pass It On&#8217; The Story of Bill Wilson and how the A.A. message reached the world records Mr. Wilson&#8217;s use of the ouija board, participation in séances, psychic events, &#8220;spook sessions&#8221;, table levitation, and how he would receive &#8220;messages&#8221; from &#8220;discarnate&#8221; spirits. </p>
<p><b>Bill Wilson was clearly in contact with demons, and this is the man who created the deceptive twelve-step program.</b></p>
<p>Make a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God, as we understood Him. (Step #11.) <b>The last part of this statement (&#8221;as we understood Him&#8221;) is enough to damn your soul! God says, Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. (Proverbs 3:5). </p>
<p>This is the exact opposite of &#8220;God as we understood Him.&#8221; All men, according to Romans 1:18-32, are condemned before God, because they rely upon their own understanding (Romans 1:21; Ephesians 4:18, &#8220;having their understanding darkened&#8221;), and they create (in their own darkened minds) a god of their own making (Romans 1:23).</b></p>
<p>To encourage people to turn their &#8220;lives over to the care of God as we understood Him&#8221;, is to encourage people to &#8220;turn their lives over to a god of their own making&#8221; (i.e. according to their own understanding). </p>
<p>This promotes nothing more than spiritual death (Revelation 22:15). <b>In addition, these twelve steps are a deceitful attack against the saving work of the Lord Jesus Christ (i.e. they are against Christ, anti-Christ, 2 John 7; Colossians 2:8-10).</b> </p>
<p><i>The twelve steps are (as Mr. Wilson used them) given as an answer (a way) in which one can overcome sin (with Mr. Wilson&#8217;s case, the sin of drunkenness).</i></p>
<p><b>Jesus Christ is the ONLY answer for sin. He is the only way (John 14:6). There is only ONE &#8220;step&#8221;, and that is faith in the Saviour (Ephesians 2:8/Matthew1:21/John 8:36/Romans10: 13!</b> </p>
<p>The above exemplifies the &#8220;twelve steps&#8221; are what are used to &#8220;become free from addictive, compulsive&#8221; behaviour (i.e. sin). In other words, the twelve steps are the saviour! </p>
<p>No doubt it is deceptive, because &#8220;Biblical principles&#8221; are interwoven throughout; but if they weren&#8217;t, few (if any) would be deceived. One good question to ask would be, &#8220;Where does Scripture talk about any &#8216;twelve steps&#8217;&#8221;? The answer? Nowhere!</p>
<p><i>These twelve steps come from Satan (via Bill Wilson), who is the master deceiver (Revelation 12:9). Remember, <b>SATAN.</b> used Scripture to tempt Christ (Matthew 4:6), and Balaam spoke much truth (Numbers 23-24); but he was a false prophet (2 Peter 2:15-16/Numbers 22). </p>
<p>In Matthew 7:13-14 Jesus warned, Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. </p>
<p>Jesus likewise warned in Luke 13:24, Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Addiction Blog</title>
		<link>http://addictionblog.org/the-news/chaos-the-state-of-recovery-information/#comment-767</link>
		<dc:creator>Addiction Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing, Jack.  Welcome to the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing, Jack.  Welcome to the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://addictionblog.org/the-news/chaos-the-state-of-recovery-information/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://addictionblog.org/the-news/chaos-the-state-of-recovery-information/#comment-719</guid>
		<description>I agree, Cole. I'm a recovering addict, former health care professional, and follower of Jesus. 12 Step programs have had this problem since their inception. There are numerous recovery programs/organizations based on the 12 Steps with Jesus Christ as the Higher Power. Here is a list to just a few: http://www.alcoholicsvictorious.org/www.html.

There are numerous organizations that are non-christian as well. As AA says, take what works and leave the rest. 

Bottom line for me is this, any organization that believes:
- In a Power higher than me, 
- Asks me to make a deep, searching, and honest inventory of my short-comings, character defects, and the times when I have hurt others,
- Tells me to admit I've made a mistake as soon as I've recognized the mistake
- Make a list of others I have wronged and to make amends to them unless making that amend would hurt them or someone else,
- Share my recovery with others who are still in active addiction

can't be the work of Satan or any evil doer. The fellowship and relationships developed as a result of "working the program" is the key to the success of these organizations. When someone is thinking of using again, members of these 12 Step groups will drop whatever they are doing and go to the assistance of that person (even in the middle of the night!). 

Isn't this what Jesus taught? Love God with all our hearts, minds, and soul...and love  our neighbor as ourselves. Forgive and ask for forgiveness "70 times 7". Finally, didn't he ask us to take this message of love and forgiveness to others...this "Gospel" (translated "Good News"). 

Yep, there are many "true" Christians who also attend 12 Step meetings. The Higher Power for them IS Jesus. I see no incompatability. 

We must always keep in mind God gave us free will. This means a person is as free to reject Jesus as they are to accept Him. We will all suffer the consequences of our choices in this life. God knows this. WE are the ones who have a hard time with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Cole. I&#8217;m a recovering addict, former health care professional, and follower of Jesus. 12 Step programs have had this problem since their inception. There are numerous recovery programs/organizations based on the 12 Steps with Jesus Christ as the Higher Power. Here is a list to just a few: <a href="http://www.alcoholicsvictorious.org/www.html." rel="nofollow">http://www.alcoholicsvictorious.org/www.html.</a></p>
<p>There are numerous organizations that are non-christian as well. As AA says, take what works and leave the rest. </p>
<p>Bottom line for me is this, any organization that believes:<br />
- In a Power higher than me,<br />
- Asks me to make a deep, searching, and honest inventory of my short-comings, character defects, and the times when I have hurt others,<br />
- Tells me to admit I&#8217;ve made a mistake as soon as I&#8217;ve recognized the mistake<br />
- Make a list of others I have wronged and to make amends to them unless making that amend would hurt them or someone else,<br />
- Share my recovery with others who are still in active addiction</p>
<p>can&#8217;t be the work of Satan or any evil doer. The fellowship and relationships developed as a result of &#8220;working the program&#8221; is the key to the success of these organizations. When someone is thinking of using again, members of these 12 Step groups will drop whatever they are doing and go to the assistance of that person (even in the middle of the night!). </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this what Jesus taught? Love God with all our hearts, minds, and soul&#8230;and love  our neighbor as ourselves. Forgive and ask for forgiveness &#8220;70 times 7&#8243;. Finally, didn&#8217;t he ask us to take this message of love and forgiveness to others&#8230;this &#8220;Gospel&#8221; (translated &#8220;Good News&#8221;). </p>
<p>Yep, there are many &#8220;true&#8221; Christians who also attend 12 Step meetings. The Higher Power for them IS Jesus. I see no incompatability. </p>
<p>We must always keep in mind God gave us free will. This means a person is as free to reject Jesus as they are to accept Him. We will all suffer the consequences of our choices in this life. God knows this. WE are the ones who have a hard time with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cole</title>
		<link>http://addictionblog.org/the-news/chaos-the-state-of-recovery-information/#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://addictionblog.org/the-news/chaos-the-state-of-recovery-information/#comment-538</guid>
		<description>Patrick, I really hope that you were being sarcastic.  I am particularly referring to your last line.

I will admit that I have found recovery in the rooms with the 12 steps as its foundation.  I agree that many people, perhaps even myself, need some other modality to gain a loving relationship with God.  Christianity can be one of many.  

I am definitely not posting to get in a squabble over religious convictions and who is right and who is wrong.  One of the main spiritual (not religious) principles of the 12 steps is open mindedness.  I was kind of offended that a "Christ-like" individual such as you would say such mean spirited things.  It is the words and actions like this that make it so hard for people like me to take Christianity seriously.  

The inviting aspect of the 12 steps is created with love and attraction.  What I read was meant to incite fear.  I have met many people who have maintained a strong commitment to their 12 step group while maintaining a strong commitment to their Christian faith.  As a matter of a fact, it is kind of common in my area.  They seem to be doing just fine.  

I appreciate your concern for my salvation.  If I have any questions I will definitely ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, I really hope that you were being sarcastic.  I am particularly referring to your last line.</p>
<p>I will admit that I have found recovery in the rooms with the 12 steps as its foundation.  I agree that many people, perhaps even myself, need some other modality to gain a loving relationship with God.  Christianity can be one of many.  </p>
<p>I am definitely not posting to get in a squabble over religious convictions and who is right and who is wrong.  One of the main spiritual (not religious) principles of the 12 steps is open mindedness.  I was kind of offended that a &#8220;Christ-like&#8221; individual such as you would say such mean spirited things.  It is the words and actions like this that make it so hard for people like me to take Christianity seriously.  </p>
<p>The inviting aspect of the 12 steps is created with love and attraction.  What I read was meant to incite fear.  I have met many people who have maintained a strong commitment to their 12 step group while maintaining a strong commitment to their Christian faith.  As a matter of a fact, it is kind of common in my area.  They seem to be doing just fine.  </p>
<p>I appreciate your concern for my salvation.  If I have any questions I will definitely ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Addiction Blog</title>
		<link>http://addictionblog.org/the-news/chaos-the-state-of-recovery-information/#comment-337</link>
		<dc:creator>Addiction Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that's an interesting perspective.  Even as I hesitate to condemn others for their beliefs, I think that this perspective might actually hurt the poster more than he knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s an interesting perspective.  Even as I hesitate to condemn others for their beliefs, I think that this perspective might actually hurt the poster more than he knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Partrick</title>
		<link>http://addictionblog.org/the-news/chaos-the-state-of-recovery-information/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>Partrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://addictionblog.org/the-news/chaos-the-state-of-recovery-information/#comment-141</guid>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;THE 12 STEPS DOWN TO HELL&lt;/b&gt;
12 Step recovery programs are a slow slide into the jaws of Satan. I was involved with this evil “satanic cult” [AA] for over 30 years but was saved through the &lt;b&gt;POWER of JESUS CHRIST.&lt;/b&gt;

He directed me to a therapist who was into “real” recovery, not the mind destroying, soul destroying, cult, which is AA. I have met two Steppers recently &#38; I imagine they are completely devoid of any emotion or insight.

I feel pain because both these men are decent human beings but AA has destroyed their "brain structure" &#38; they have no idea how to relate apart from expounding AA propaganda.

I imagine Hell to be a continuous flow of AA meetings without any light at the end of the tunnel because one is never &lt;b&gt;REDEEMED.&lt;/b&gt; I beg you,  to get out before it is too late.

How is one &lt;b&gt;REDEEMED,&lt;/b&gt; when one is handing one’s power over to AA. The 12 Steps were written out of Wilson’s head, he certainly didn’t get his guidance from the Bible. I imagine he was an agent of Satan &#38; he &#38; Smith’s “cult religion” has filled millions of Steppers with their anti - Christ propaganda.

Step Three of AA is "Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood him." While many in the Oxford Group placed their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, there was much leeway given.

Shoemaker, a leader of the Oxford Group, says, "The true meaning of faith is self-surrender to God." He further explains:
Surrender to whatever you know about Him, or believe must be the truth about Him. Surrender to Him, if necessary, in total ignorance of Him. 

Far more important that you touch Him than that you understand Him at first. Put yourself in His hands. Whatever He is, as William James said, He is more ideal than we are. Make the leap. Give yourself to Him.

&lt;i&gt;Aside from capitalizing the "H," which Christians do to refer to the God of the Bible, "Him" could refer to any god of one’s own making&lt;/i&gt; &lt;b&gt;[BEDPAN).&lt;/b&gt;

Can you see what is happening to you? &lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Ask &lt;b&gt;JESUS&lt;/b&gt; to take control of your life, read the Bible &#38; instead of 12 Step groups, go to Church. BURN your &lt;i&gt;BIG BOOK&lt;/i&gt; or use it as &lt;i&gt;TOILET PAPER.&lt;/i&gt;

Can you see the difference: With The 12 Steps, one is being &lt;b&gt;CONTROLLED&lt;/b&gt; by &lt;b&gt;SATAN,&lt;/b&gt; but with &lt;b&gt;JOHN 3:16&lt;/b&gt; one is guaranteed &lt;b&gt;ETERNAL SALVATION. &lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;The “ball is in your court,"&lt;/i&gt; &lt;b&gt;?&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;b&gt;I, PATRICK, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>THE 12 STEPS DOWN TO HELL</b><br />
12 Step recovery programs are a slow slide into the jaws of Satan. I was involved with this evil “satanic cult” [AA] for over 30 years but was saved through the <b>POWER of JESUS CHRIST.</b></p>
<p>He directed me to a therapist who was into “real” recovery, not the mind destroying, soul destroying, cult, which is AA. I have met two Steppers recently &amp; I imagine they are completely devoid of any emotion or insight.</p>
<p>I feel pain because both these men are decent human beings but AA has destroyed their &#8220;brain structure&#8221; &amp; they have no idea how to relate apart from expounding AA propaganda.</p>
<p>I imagine Hell to be a continuous flow of AA meetings without any light at the end of the tunnel because one is never <b>REDEEMED.</b> I beg you,  to get out before it is too late.</p>
<p>How is one <b>REDEEMED,</b> when one is handing one’s power over to AA. The 12 Steps were written out of Wilson’s head, he certainly didn’t get his guidance from the Bible. I imagine he was an agent of Satan &amp; he &amp; Smith’s “cult religion” has filled millions of Steppers with their anti - Christ propaganda.</p>
<p>Step Three of AA is &#8220;Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood him.&#8221; While many in the Oxford Group placed their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, there was much leeway given.</p>
<p>Shoemaker, a leader of the Oxford Group, says, &#8220;The true meaning of faith is self-surrender to God.&#8221; He further explains:<br />
Surrender to whatever you know about Him, or believe must be the truth about Him. Surrender to Him, if necessary, in total ignorance of Him. </p>
<p>Far more important that you touch Him than that you understand Him at first. Put yourself in His hands. Whatever He is, as William James said, He is more ideal than we are. Make the leap. Give yourself to Him.</p>
<p><i>Aside from capitalizing the &#8220;H,&#8221; which Christians do to refer to the God of the Bible, &#8220;Him&#8221; could refer to any god of one’s own making</i> <b>[BEDPAN).</b></p>
<p>Can you see what is happening to you? <b></b> Ask <b>JESUS</b> to take control of your life, read the Bible &amp; instead of 12 Step groups, go to Church. BURN your <i>BIG BOOK</i> or use it as <i>TOILET PAPER.</i></p>
<p>Can you see the difference: With The 12 Steps, one is being <b>CONTROLLED</b> by <b>SATAN,</b> but with <b>JOHN 3:16</b> one is guaranteed <b>ETERNAL SALVATION. </b> <i>The “ball is in your court,&#8221;</i> <b>?</b></p>
<p><b>I, PATRICK, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE.</b></p>
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